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jesse_RE
17-02-2011, 10:53 AM
Hi all, looking at getting my new turbo manifold ceramic coated, any recommendations of who to go to?
mr rx4
17-02-2011, 02:11 PM
love to know as well getting all my turbo setup done really soon as well
i uses a place in richmond next to pacemaker was around 120 for my rear housing if u are getting your manifold done i would also get the rear housing done
Fat 4 RE
17-02-2011, 07:03 PM
Mate my manifold is getting doe as we speak :D
i uses a place in richmond next to pacemaker was around 120 for my rear housing if u are getting your manifold done i would also get the rear housing done
At the same place as doc said
I was quoted $100 for the 1.06 Gt35R housing and around $130-150 for my steam pipe manifold + $25-50 for the facing for the manifold also.. Mine had been welded and need as was a little warped
Estimated time is 12 working days as they don't do black as much as the crappy silver and that the silver wont stand the heat of a rotary :japonais:
Link for details
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/place?cid=7084298672669212049&q=pacemaker+headers+sa&hl=en&cd=1&cad=src:ppiwlink&ei=6_lcTeTfPIvcuQOhuaz2DQ&dtab=0
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?utm_campaign=en_AU&utm_medium=ha&utm_source=en_AU-ha-apac-au-bk-gm&utm_term=google%20maps
carlitto
18-02-2011, 05:53 AM
Is part of the pacemakers business...top people to deal with.
Took one of my toyota apprentice groups there for a factory tour of there exhaust production and there heat treating set ups...
From raw material through to finished product...
There R&D section was very interesting...
jesse_RE
18-02-2011, 07:36 AM
Cheers guys, i'll give them a buzzz.
Was thinking of only doing the manifold as i've got a turbo beanie
i'm not a fan of turbo beanies myself thats why i went the coating
Fat 4 RE
18-02-2011, 07:47 PM
Cheers guys, i'll give them a buzzz.
Was thinking of only doing the manifold as i've got a turbo beanie
Mate they look sexy and the temps run lower with the coating over the beanie from what i have read.. also the beanies can cause heat to be trapped in it on cool down and take longer to cool
Also think about doing the dump pipe as i will get mine done once it has been modded and the plump back waste gate welded to it
Then if bay temps still high then rap the shit up
I was hoping that my stuff was going to be ready today but not till Monday..Which sucks as i go away and can't pick it up for a week :faceslap:
jesse_RE
19-02-2011, 04:12 PM
Mate they look sexy and the temps run lower with the coating over the beanie from what i have read.. also the beanies can cause heat to be trapped in it on cool down and take longer to cool
Also think about doing the dump pipe as i will get mine done once it has been modded and the plump back waste gate welded to it
Then if bay temps still high then rap the shit up
I was hoping that my stuff was going to be ready today but not till Monday..Which sucks as i go away and can't pick it up for a week :faceslap: Already got the beanie, guess i could always sell it... i'll probably just wrap up the dump pipe, still got a roll of heat wrap at home i havent used.
Keen to see you're turbo and manifold with the coating done. keep me updated, cheers
the coating just looks black lol
but it works so well after a few 20 psi dyno runs the turbo rear still wasn't glowing
Fat 4 RE
19-02-2011, 11:50 PM
will post some pics for you Jesse when i pick them up...
And will show the results once dynoed
mUnky-matt
20-02-2011, 09:26 AM
Shit... jesse's car finished before mine???? ><
Cheers for this thread, looking at getting the same thing done this week :D my mani is finally finished also, picking it up today.
jesse_RE
21-02-2011, 07:06 AM
Shit... jesse's car finished before mine???? ><
Cheers for this thread, looking at getting the same thing done this week :D my mani is finally finished also, picking it up today. Lol, dont think so.. Still got a bit of work to do.
mUnky-matt
21-02-2011, 09:45 AM
Lol, dont think so.. Still got a bit of work to do.
Need a hand?
This is mine currently...
http://www.users.on.net/~salkeld/P1010236.JPG
http://www.users.on.net/~salkeld/P1010228.JPG
:chewydancing::chewydancing::chewydancing:
Heading off to the place mentioned in this thread today to get some coating :D
Tally
21-02-2011, 11:17 AM
yea id like to get this done once I get some extractors for my corolla
Does it matter if the extractors are painted or are bare as if i buy second hand they will be painted but if I buy brand new they will be bare metal...
13bwankel
21-02-2011, 06:44 PM
they have to bead blast the metal first so as long as the material is ok for that it's alright, but most of these guys want new pipe
mUnky-matt
21-02-2011, 09:36 PM
I dropped off my steampipe mani there today... $270 + milling... ready next week...
better be worth it ;o
if it keeps the heat around the manifold cooler and stops your wiring from melting its worth every cent
remember keeping everything around your engine cool will help keep you engine temps down. Small price compared to engine rebuild.
Im looking at getting my stuff coated, was previously running a beanie which did wonders for under bonnett temps. Its only a couple hundred ks old so still prob run it even with the coating.
Cheers
capella re
23-02-2011, 10:10 AM
horsepower in a box do ceramic coating and their prices seem pretty reasonable in comparison. I haven't used them for ceramics but have heard good things about their work on manifolds and turbo housings.
only available in black - rated at 3000 degrees
exhaust manifolds - $198
ehaust housing - $150
08 8463 0913 9am-5pm Monday to Friday or 0414 780 830 9am-10pm 6 Days
best ringing to confirm prices
http://www.horsepowerinabox.com/HPIAB2/category60_1.htm#417
IMO,and experience, ceramic coating is a waste of money in terms of heat retention. Its looks great, but a combination of heat wrap, beanies, and proper heatshields using the ACL stuff work thousands times better.
Never seen or heard of a BB turbo dieing cos of beanies, one of the best $150 you can spend on a turbo engine bay IMO.
You wont see much of the hotside in a FC engine bay either, better off spending your money elsewhere on more usefull stuff.
Fat 4 RE
04-03-2011, 02:34 PM
IMO,and experience, ceramic coating is a waste of money in terms of heat retention. Its looks great, but a combination of heat wrap, beanies, and proper heatshields using the ACL stuff work thousands times better.
Never seen or heard of a BB turbo dieing cos of beanies, one of the best $150 you can spend on a turbo engine bay IMO.
You wont see much of the hotside in a FC engine bay either, better off spending your money elsewhere on more usefull stuff.
Mate in your R100 you would have major heat soak issue due to the compact size of the setup Ale. so in your case a good match as said above is the trick
(i am not doubting you Ale as the is the first setup and will be check details and data, EGT bay temps and stuff)
I got my manifold and housing back today and looks good but still have to put it back together and get some heat to finish the coating curing and will give some results once i know more
Pic once my camera is charged
Fat 4 RE
06-03-2011, 05:29 AM
OK got some before and after pic of the manifold and exhaust housing
Manifold - Before
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6674/dsc04969v.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/dsc04969v.jpg/)
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4716/dsc04968.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/dsc04968.jpg/)
Manifold - After
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7666/dsc05204b.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/dsc05204b.jpg/)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7622/dsc05205ly.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/dsc05205ly.jpg/)
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2936/dsc05209l.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/dsc05209l.jpg/)
Exhaust Housing - Before
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2779/dsc04971d.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/dsc04971d.jpg/)
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8880/dsc04970n.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/dsc04970n.jpg/)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6439/dsc04972xq.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/dsc04972xq.jpg/)
Exhaust Hosing - After
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6189/dsc05202g.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/dsc05202g.jpg/)
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6969/dsc05200w.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/dsc05200w.jpg/)
Turbo Bolted back together
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9039/dsc05212.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/dsc05212.jpg/)
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1623/dsc05211.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/dsc05211.jpg/)
Costing (all prices are including Gst) was $110 for housing, $130 for manifold and $50 for the facing of the manifold
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