Sportin' the canary, need stock springs for a 1st gen s3...

[FIX_my_ROTA]

After some stock springs to get myself off defect... NEED TO BE STANDARD!!!!

Or if someone can point me in the right direction that would be awsome.. Need my car driveable asap...

If i could borrow a pair that would also be sweet. I'm good for it, few people on here can vouch for me.

Let me know ay

[FIX_my_ROTA]

Just had a thought, would re-fitting stock wheels lift my ride height...?? Only needs 5mm at the front and 15mm at the rear...

[capella re]

generally as the wheel size goes up, profile goes down so overall diameter doesnt change as much as you would think. try and pm miket, he should have every combination of spring for a first gen from racing at mallala. pm him and he's also got a few sets for sale here 1st gen rx7 coil spring sale... - S.A.Rotors Forums

cant beleive two members with defect in a matter of weeks. long weekend coming up too.

[RazzaCaine]

cant beleive two members with defect in a matter of weeks. long weekend coming up too.

sucks eh? hope all goes well with regency mate

[basketcaseFC]

Sorry to hear about the canary Jared! I agree with Simon and think you will need the stock springs. All the best getting through, any luck borrowing the springs yet??

[miket]

How low does it need to be for a defect ( or what the cops think is a defect height ):annoyed:


Michael...

[Rota_boy]

The lowest point must be above 100mm, and there are specific distances from the centre of the wheel to the wheel arch that must be met.

For a S3 it was something like 360mm on the rear and 340 or 330 mm on the front (dont quote me on these, was a while ago I rang up regency to get the numbers)

[capella re]

Lowering A vehicle may have the suspension modified to attain a lower ride height, providing the suspension travel is not reduced by more than one third of the original manufacturer’s suspension travel and the vehicle retains the minimum legally required ground clearance. The minimum ground clearance must not be less than: �� any point in the width of the vehicle which is within one metre fore of an axle – 100mm, and �� for the mid – point between any two consecutive axles, the dimension in millimetres obtained by multiplying the distance in metres between those two axles by 33.33. In addition, the original relationship between the front and rear suspension height should not be changed and therefore, the front and rear suspensions should both be raised or lowered by the same amount. Coil springs must not be shortened by cutting and no suspension component is to be subjected to heating. Replacement coil springs must have: �� the same or greater load capacity as the originals �� sufficient force between the spring and its seat for it to remain correctly seated when the suspension is at full droop �� the same end shape as the original springs �� clearance between the coils when the suspension is at full bump. Lowering blocks may be used on leaf spring suspensions provided they are manufactured from steel, aluminium, or metal of equivalent strength and are positively located to the axle spigot hole and the spring centre bolt. It should be noted that the axle mounting “U” bolts are not permitted to be below the lower rim height. Rubber or other resilient bump stops must be provided where the suspension and/or axle are likely to bottom out or result in the spring being coil bound (i.e. no clearance between coils at full bump.) When the ride height of a vehicle is lowered, the vehicle must still comply with other legal requirements, for example: �� Lighting – the lowering of the vehicle will affect the height of the vehicle’s lights and reflectors and these have to remain within specific legal boundaries. Care must be taken to ensure that the lowering of the vehicle results in the vehicle not complying with the legal requirements i.e. headlamps must be at least 500mm above the ground, measured from the centre of the light. Aftermarket Suspension Units Aftermarket front and rear suspension units are available that incorporate an external thread on the main body and corresponding threaded spring saddle that allows the vehicle’s suspension height to be varied. The adjusting of the threaded spring saddle varies the lower position of the spring and therefore, the vehicle ride height, but does not alter the amount of suspension travel. These are commonly known as coil overs. For these units to be an acceptable alternative to the original manufacturer’s suspension, they must meet the following criteria. They must: �� have at least two thirds of the amount of suspension travel of the original suspension system fitted by the manufacturer of the vehicle �� have a rubber or other resilient bump stop to limit travel to ensure there is clearance between the coils when the suspension is at full bump �� incorporate a permanent locking device on the adjustment mechanism to prevent the adjusting of the suspension that results in the vehicle’s ride being less than that minimum legal height specified for that vehicle.

so in summary ians right and all the other stuff no officer will remember :) :) :)

[yelloS2Rx7]

Pedders lowered springs are millimeter perfect legal lowered
fit them and u won't have to change back,
they're rspectable looking height too....
I have some STD springs but they're buried at the bottom of my storage unit
behin mountains of stuff....
My car has been thru regancy with Pedders lowered springs no problem

[FIX_my_ROTA]

G'day, thanks for replies fellaz. Legal height for a s3 is 320mm front and 340mm rear..(Middle of wheel to arch)

Yello- How much are the legal pedders springs for all-round?? Are they def legal?? i dont have the cash to be wasting thats all...

Simon, Leigh- Yeah sorta relized that later, hahaha. Im desprate, leave me alone!!! haha. Nah no luck with borrowing any, i think i will have to buy some... If new pedders springs are cheap enough might go for them...

Miket- PM sent

Ryan. thanks bud.

Bit off topic, how much does a webber manifold to suit a 13b in good condish go for??

[yelloS2Rx7]

Yeah man my car went thru regency
defected for too loud too low for 2nd time
so thought I'd screw em n go get a 13BT conv legal!!!!
I doubt you will get thru first time anyways....
But I'll say it again......
they are millimeter perfect!!!!
Even with the extra weight of the 13BT
centre of wheel to gaurd they are spot on, F&R
to regency vehicle standards minimum height requirement perfect!!!!
they ride and handle sooo much better than the kings
they look very respectable and ya don't have to change em
ring Cameron @ Pedders prospect he's a Mazda man
he will look after u best he can!!!!

[miket]

Mine is 335mm rears and 342mm fronts ( had the std rear springs reset to 330 -335mm ) so close to the mark....

Michael...

[FIX_my_ROTA]

I doubt you will get thru first time anyways....
Whys that?? Only got done for one thing and its not a full inspection so i should be ok, right??

Fuckin cops have just gone and ruined my fuckin plans. FUCKING PIGS!!!

Im gona to a few places tomorrow morning while i can still drive to see wat people can do...

[yelloS2Rx7]

There's sooo many things they can screw u for
ya seats, searbelts the rubber ya steering wheel,
non STD st wheel...
or they can refer u for a full inspection at the drop of a hat
it's all a revenue raising exercise....
And the if the inspectors do their job find more stuff wrong
u get to go back n pay more!!!! Woo hoo
and chances are u will get an inspector that hates rotarys...lol
Good luck man!!!
If you had ordered the springs from Cameron, I coulda installed em sat arvo......

[FIX_my_ROTA]

Well thats great to hear. Cheers.....

Yeah i'll get in contact with him and let you know wen i need them fitted. Prob gona have to go over the car abit more before i take it in.. My steering is rooted too...

Fuckin cops.

[yelloS2Rx7]

If ya steering is rooted come see me, or do u have a decent Shed to work from at home???
Steering/suspension is my thing
I have rebuilt sooo many 1st gen suspn
I even have an engineer mate who's a Mazda steering box specialist
if ya need.....
I can do the whole lot at ur place, I have snap-on electric rattle gun etc
what sorta time frame u tryin to work to
fix asap????
If ya desparate I might be able to dig out and lend ya my STD springs
and spend ya money on other front end bits
if ya car duznt have to go over pits,
ya can try a dodgy.....
Goto Clark rubber
get the heaviest duty black rubber and get about 1.5-2in square blocks cut up
you Jack ya car up and as u lower it back down u wedge the rubber between the coils
it will raise ya car, te more blocks u wedge the higher it goes
have gotten cars thru like this b4 lol
we do this trick for cars with bodykits Jen they get sent on a truck or train
and have to go up the steep ramps
that way the cars lift up like a 4wd
go straight onto carrier up ramps
and when the guy get home, simply Jack each corner pull out the blocks
and ya back to slam factor!!!!
I did this for my mate with his magna that he drove to the snow
the chains wouldn't have fit/taken out his gaurds
with the rubber blocks fitted in spring it lifted plenty
bout 2in plenty clearance for snow chains......

[FIX_my_ROTA]

Hey mate, cheers for your help but i have been so strapped for cash lately and moved into a house so i havent found the money/time to do it. This is the first time i've jumped on the net in 3-4weeks...

I thinkin of wrecking it and part'n it out or sell it whole as wreck...

If you know of anyone after shit for a first gen, pop us a msg.

[MaDaZ S1]

I got my S1 though regency with the front lowered 1 1/2inch from stock and the rears lowered also 1 1/2inch

But i got some standard springs you could borrow!
Let me know if your keen!

Cheers!
Pat

[FIX_my_ROTA]

Pat, you are a legend!!! I would love to borrow em, that would help out heaps!!!!!! I so dont wana get rid of this car... I would love to have this car in a few years time wen the moneys flowing better an give it the justice it deserves..!! Plus the defect is only for 5mm to low at the front and 15mm at the back... I'm just a tad stressed atm... hahaha

There would be no point going in with my 17's on would there?? Should i put some stock wheels on or would steelies painted black be ok?? Or would that look dodgy... Makin them think im just gonna go home an put my rims on?? Hurting my chances of passing...

Get back to me Pat, that would be GREATLY appreciated.

[yelloS2Rx7]

If the 17s have legal tread And have the correct Tyre fitted ie load rating / size
should be no problem!!!!!!!
Ya can put 20s on ya car now, if u can get a tyre the right OD and load rating!!
Again the rubber blocks I mentioned below will work and have got cars thru regency b4

[FIX_my_ROTA]

Yeah im just not to keen on it ay, it had already crossed my mind and the boys at work think it mite be more trouble than its worth. I just wana give myself everychance of passing.

If Pat can lend me these springs i will catch up with you on a saturday to get em fitted up. How much?? Be good for you to check over my ssuspension/steering as well.

[yelloS2Rx7]

Just scored a set of 4 factory rubber spring Spacers that clip in between the coils!!!
They were still in the boot from shipping/transportation
they would clip in and if u mounted em inboard Noone would ever see em
they'd raise ya car easy 20-30mm
take ya bout 15 min to fit